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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2019 at 8:59am
Originally posted by Pricey2 Pricey2 wrote:

Argus, I didn't expect you to agree but most would agree that playing 7 of the bottom 8 would be easier than 7 of the top 8. I certainly think it's easier. I have acknowledged 20pts from 10 games deserves credit but I do think some people are guilty of overreacting again. We are doing reasonably well but we still need to improve significantly to challenge for promotion next year.

Positions don't matter a jot? Ok then. I don't know how to even think of replying.

Totally agree Pricey.
It's nice there has been something to smile about in these past few weeks but, for me, there's a hell of a lot of work to do this summer. 
I'd imagine Smudger and Andy have the job in the bag (and deserve it on results) but it's a big task for them to build a squad capable of competing, something even more experienced managers have failed at. 
I would be amazed if Lait and Beswick stayed, Concannon will be gone.
I'd imagine them down the road (Belford and Ginnelly are wily, plenty of contacts) will snaffle some of the better Midland players at this level.
I just hope the board back Smudge and Andy financially or I fear we will find it difficult again. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2019 at 10:02am
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Positions don't matter a jot? Ok then. I don't know how to even think of replying.



I’ll try to make it even simpler for you to understand then Pricey. Since relegation from the Conference Premier under all our managers we have had a tendency to play better and often beat the top and teams higher in league and struggle against teams shall l say below us. Coalville away and Stourbridge home are good recent examples. We have reached a league which contain nothing special teams apart from Kettering and we beat ourselves more than teams beat us. Positions don’t matter a jot - Lowestoft was a case in point yesterday. There you go - can’t make my point any clearer than that
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2019 at 10:16am
Originally posted by DanTFC DanTFC wrote:

Originally posted by Pricey2 Pricey2 wrote:

Argus, I didn't expect you to agree but most would agree that playing 7 of the bottom 8 would be easier than 7 of the top 8. I certainly think it's easier. I have acknowledged 20pts from 10 games deserves credit but I do think some people are guilty of overreacting again. We are doing reasonably well but we still need to improve significantly to challenge for promotion next year.

Positions don't matter a jot? Ok then. I don't know how to even think of replying.


Totally agree Pricey.
It's nice there has been something to smile about in these past few weeks but, for me, there's a hell of a lot of work to do this summer. 
I'd imagine Smudger and Andy have the job in the bag (and deserve it on results) but it's a big task for them to build a squad capable of competing, something even more experienced managers have failed at. 
I would be amazed if Lait and Beswick stayed, Concannon will be gone.
I'd imagine them down the road (Belford and Ginnelly are wily, plenty of contacts) will snaffle some of the better Midland players at this level.
I just hope the board back Smudge and Andy financially or I fear we will find it difficult again. 


Smudge has done well with players that aren’t his own. Often learn more about players in defeat particularly very poor ones. That and a couple of away matches to come - good tests and should have a much better idea on who we want to keep next season if he’s not actually made his mind up already. Haven’t a cat in hells chance in keeping Jack next season. Will have to offer a bucket load of dosh to keep Lait. With highly paid Verma and Waite surely going that will help with our potential financial redistribution in terms of incomeing and retention. Beswick- why wouldn’t he want to stay?. For me there has to be a massive clear out of most of the others. Would keep likes of Clement, Shaw and Fortune. Will see if the more experienced players turn up on our next two visits!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2019 at 10:35am
Argus, I don't need you to make anything simpler for me. We often disagree which is fine and I try to back up my opinion by explaining why I think something.

I think the best teams win the most games and finish highest and the reverse is true of the worst teams. I accept there are anomalies and things like luck and injuries can have an impact on clubs but as a tough rule of thumb it works.

A couple of years back I looked into the "we do better against the top teams" and it turned out not to hold much water. I think it is based on perception as we all cling fondly to great results against top sides but as of yesterday we had won 12 league games (8 against bottom half sides, 4 against top half sides which basically fits the pattern). 5 of those wins had come against the bottom 4 (we doubled Halesowen) so I think it is easier to beat lower placed sides. With time and inclination we could do the stats for several seasons but I would sooner not.

I am sometimes wrong - I pontificated for ages in here pre season about the unfairness of the play off system as I thought we were a top 5 side for certain. It was my opinion and I got it wrong.

You might be about to tell me that the respective single points we got at home to Bedworth and to Kettering and to Alvechurch were equally tricky to obtain as league positions don't matter a jot. If so, that is your opinion and I would wager most people on here would disagree with it.

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Originally posted by Pricey2 Pricey2 wrote:

Argus, If so, that is your opinion and I would wager most people on here would disagree with it.


Great idea - let the people decide (well the other 5 people who contribute on here) - will have a referendum then but in keeping with the views of people who lose the vote/outcome l will have the right to have have another and another till I’m proved to be in the right
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2019 at 12:28pm
Originally posted by Argus9 Argus9 wrote:

Originally posted by DanTFC DanTFC wrote:

Originally posted by Pricey2 Pricey2 wrote:

Argus, I didn't expect you to agree but most would agree that playing 7 of the bottom 8 would be easier than 7 of the top 8. I certainly think it's easier. I have acknowledged 20pts from 10 games deserves credit but I do think some people are guilty of overreacting again. We are doing reasonably well but we still need to improve significantly to challenge for promotion next year.

Positions don't matter a jot? Ok then. I don't know how to even think of replying.


Totally agree Pricey.
It's nice there has been something to smile about in these past few weeks but, for me, there's a hell of a lot of work to do this summer. 
I'd imagine Smudger and Andy have the job in the bag (and deserve it on results) but it's a big task for them to build a squad capable of competing, something even more experienced managers have failed at. 
I would be amazed if Lait and Beswick stayed, Concannon will be gone.
I'd imagine them down the road (Belford and Ginnelly are wily, plenty of contacts) will snaffle some of the better Midland players at this level.
I just hope the board back Smudge and Andy financially or I fear we will find it difficult again. 


Smudge has done well with players that aren’t his own. Often learn more about players in defeat particularly very poor ones. That and a couple of away matches to come - good tests and should have a much better idea on who we want to keep next season if he’s not actually made his mind up already. Haven’t a cat in hells chance in keeping Jack next season. Will have to offer a bucket load of dosh to keep Lait. With highly paid Verma and Waite surely going that will help with our potential financial redistribution in terms of incomeing and retention. Beswick- why wouldn’t he want to stay?. For me there has to be a massive clear out of most of the others. Would keep likes of Clement, Shaw and Fortune. Will see if the more experienced players turn up on our next two visits!
I honestly don't think he'll want another season on the 4g. 
Fortune will go imo 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2019 at 1:05pm
Originally posted by Argus9 Argus9 wrote:

Originally posted by Pricey2 Pricey2 wrote:

Argus, If so, that is your opinion and I would wager most people on here would disagree with it.


Great idea - let the people decide (well the other 5 people who contribute on here) - will have a referendum then but in keeping with the views of people who lose the vote/outcome l will have the right to have have another and another till I’m proved to be in the right


Argus, I think this last statement of yours maybe should give you a clue to why only five people continue to post on this Forum.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2019 at 1:21pm
Originally posted by Red Blooded Red Blooded wrote:

Originally posted by Argus9 Argus9 wrote:

Originally posted by Pricey2 Pricey2 wrote:

Argus, If so, that is your opinion and I would wager most people on here would disagree with it.


Great idea - let the people decide (well the other 5 people who contribute on here) - will have a referendum then but in keeping with the views of people who lose the vote/outcome l will have the right to have have another and another till I’m proved to be in the right


Argus, I think this last statement of yours maybe should give you a clue to why only five people continue to post on this Forum.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2019 at 4:58pm
However Argus, you are the most recent person to complain about the lack of posts and contributors on here so if it's not your problem, kindly stop moaning about that on a periodic basis.

Roll on the close season for a multitude of reasons.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Apr 2019 at 3:32pm
Argus is the backbone of this group,and without him I doubt anything would be commented on here,there's well over 100 members of the Tamworth fans group that write on there forum, doubt that they want to comment on here as well.
Personally I'll be glad to see the back of this season,let's start afresh with some new ideas,Smudger and Andy will keep the job in my opinion,but who knows what Bob Andrews has up his sleeve.
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