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Topic: Conference North Next Season
Posted By: Skippo10
Subject: Conference North Next Season
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2014 at 9:55pm

Who would we want to keep...

I would want a new manager in place, probably going to have a completely new team, so a new manager seems the only way to go for me, Belford is a good bloke, and have now doubt he is Tamworth through and through, but it just hasn't worked for him.

I would only keep Duane Courtney and Lloyd Kerry if it is possible, might be doing others an injustice, but they are the only ones who have impressed me this season, and I take into consideration Courtney has been injured for a while, but wonder if we would have been in this situation with him in our team!




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Posted By: shockwave1965
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2014 at 10:22pm
Belford should go back to the likes of the Midland Alliance, always out of his depth talked a good game but totally inept!! But Andrews favouritism of Belford has cost the club dear Lambs to the 'slaughter' Sorry to say but its gonna be a long long time in the doldrums.


Posted By: Get real 2
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2014 at 10:23pm
How date you...admin or H will delete if you don't tow the line...


Posted By: shockwave1965
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2014 at 10:36pm
My comments there are the views of many.


Posted By: Coops
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2014 at 11:05pm
Any chance of a proper discussion of where we are or will the dickheads scupper it?

My opinion, Andrews has never had the money to keep us up, I don't expect him to bankrupt himself either, I'm sure he would sell if a buyer was there, but be careful what you wish for!

Belford was a big mistake, I said at the time he lacked experience and even at lower levels had a poor record, again it was probably the budget that meant he got the job, that and his name! How many players have we used this season?

In my opinion we are going back to the level our support deserves. Before you start I'm talking numbers, we have a hardcore of about 500, we can survive in Conf North on that and may well thrive. I'm just sad that a town of 80,000+ can't support their local team, 5000 of the buggers turned up at Everton!




Posted By: shockwave1965
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2014 at 11:14pm
Huh Andrews is a multi-millionaire pal


Posted By: shockwave1965
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2014 at 11:18pm
But you are right there some of that 5000 who did put themselves out from watching the 'big four' midland clubs or those that follow other clubs for the trip to Everton could have come down to the lamb and boost the attendances but when they read Andrews negative comments pleading poverty in the herald they rightfully chose to stay away.


Posted By: DETRLE
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2014 at 10:10am
The majority of Tamworth fans never wanted Belford in the first place. It was never going to be a good move as it now proves. Yes I agree he should manage in the Midland Alliance or similar. Too many loan signings as I have previously said, loan players are never going to be committed to our club. If like we are now relegated, they will just return to there respective clubs. Dale, lets be perfectly honest did not have a clue. My only hope is that our chairman removes Dale from our club altogether and DOES NOT give him a chance to get us back up. That would be a total disaster!


Posted By: happy red
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2014 at 10:49am

Mr Cooper how on earth do you or anyone else know what it would be like under different chairmanship.  Under this management system we are down and who knows where we will be next season. Lets say, Mr Cooper, if we were in the top six like Nuneaton would you have gone down and watched them more this season. I have made my views clear in the past, I am not paying £10 to £12 to watch Conference North football, why should I? When Bob Andrews has let the club slip out the Conference.

I may have more confidence in the club if they announced major improvements to the ground. We can now move to another ground while ground improvements were being made, just like other teams do. If no announcements are made about any improvements then I'm not going to say any more, I'm just not going to waste my money anymore, like you Mr Cooper I'm going to stay away.  



Posted By: The dosthill lamb
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2014 at 10:53am
Having travelled to Southport yesterday i can only say that on that performance we would struggle to remain even in Conference North. There was no passion or desire, no cohesion and no shape. I lost count of the number of times we gave away the ball whilst in posession,or just hoofed it upfield. The only tactical instructions eminating from our bench every game is a cry of "second ball" .There were about 75 people from Tamworth who travelled to that game yesterday either by coach, car or rail, good honest people who care deeply about the football club, and it was clear to see the pain and anger on a lot of faces. They deserve better than that dross. In a perverse sort of way, if it takes losing the last 3 league games to make this board wake up and smell the coffee then so be it, but im not holding my breath. If changes arent made then i can only see us continuing on a downward path.  


Posted By: tamall
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2014 at 2:26pm
New manager needed for a new start asap.  Players to keep?  For me I would give the keepers shirt to James Wren and that would help with the wages bill.


Posted By: Jonesy702
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2014 at 4:54pm

Is a new manager the answer though?

If Dale was to leave his position, who would we have to replace him? I can't think of anyone else that would come in with a higher reputation?

My guess is he'd be replaced with Darren Byfield, who has no managerial experience.



Posted By: Gregorios
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2014 at 6:04pm
Originally posted by Jonesy702 Jonesy702 wrote:

 I can't think of anyone else that would come in with a higher reputation?


A higher reputation? Any reputation would do, be more than what dale has...


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Posted By: Let's get real
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2014 at 12:30pm
Originally posted by Jonesy702 Jonesy702 wrote:

Is a new manager the answer though?

If Dale was to leave his position, who would we have to replace him? I can't think of anyone else that would come in with a higher reputation?

My guess is he'd be replaced with Darren Byfield, who has no managerial experience.

 
I'd go for Andy Todd if he wanted to try his luck at Conf North level. Wasn't he assistant manager at his last club??


Posted By: Bringyourdinner
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2014 at 1:49pm
Definitely time for a change, players resond to fresh faces and a fresh setup. It would be criminal that in football if a manager has a season to do his job and gets a team relegated that he still could keep his job ??

I know there are names being banded round all ready to replace him so surely this wouldn't happen unless tamworth board were thinking its time for a change ??


Posted By: CG RED
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2014 at 5:08pm
You tell me who in their right mind would come to Tamworth on the budget our board allows ?

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Posted By: Get real 2
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2014 at 5:52pm
So you actually know what the budget is then?


Posted By: The dosthill lamb
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2014 at 6:07pm
Dont know why it is that people think that prospective managers would be put off by the budget available,whatever that may be. As i said in an earlier post,advertise it and see,and i would reckon that there would be more than a few interested. After all despite relegation, Tamworth FC would still a relatively attractive prospect i would have thought compared to many clubs. The alternative is to continue with the dross we have been witnessing. I see the current manager wants the chance to re-build the club according to Tamworth Herald site!! 


Posted By: NWL
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2014 at 7:42pm
Originally posted by The dosthill lamb The dosthill lamb wrote:


Dont know why it is that people think that prospective managers would be put off by the budget available,whatever that may be. As i said in an earlier post,advertise it and see,and i would reckon that there would be more than a few interested. After all despite relegation, Tamworth FC would still a relatively attractive prospect i would have thought compared to many clubs. The alternative is to continue with the dross we have been witnessing. I see the current manager wants the chance to re-build the club according to Tamworth Herald site!! 


Funny that re-build something he helped knocked down, no thanks.


Posted By: Get real 2
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2014 at 8:48pm
+1


Posted By: Bringyourdinner
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2014 at 10:09pm
At the end of the day a manager controls the budget, and his decisions to bring in players is dictated by the amount of money he can pay them. Do your research and see how many successfull teams throughout the years used over 50 players in anyone season ? The answer you will find is none ! Relegation management gets you relegated ! and then also look at the fact that when you pick a team of new players there will always be a period of time that those players will need to gel and understand how each other play, when you have near enough a new team every 2 months that's why it looks like a bunch of strangers playing together with no passion, pride or honour to wear that shirt.

The club needs to be really carefull in the selection of the next manager ? As the conference north is no easy league and the wrong decisions could see the club there for a few years. I have heard a few people mention a name of a league 2 assistant player manager at Mansfield ??


Posted By: KTC
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2014 at 11:11pm

We cannot stop going down but our team still need your support, we can achieve something this season so lets support Tamworth on Tuesday night who knows it could be our 9th win of the season.

With a lot of luck we may keep Everton, Kerry and Courtney and get rid of Belford which just could get us back up.



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Posted By: NWL
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2014 at 7:46pm
I would like to think the board will act quickly, sorry but Dale has to go, Cameron will not stay and I dont think it be a great loss, there's enough managers with league experience in abundance out there, so start touting the club now, and get one in place sooner than later, let's show our intent to bounce back quickly, otherwise fartting about will leave us unprepared for the unknown, come on Tfc show some balls.


Posted By: CG RED
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2014 at 8:35pm
Dean Saunders wants a return to management.

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Posted By: shockwave1965
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2014 at 8:48pm
I was told Cameron Belford was on £1000 a lot of money for bending your back to pick the ball out the net a few times each game.


Posted By: Bringyourdinner
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2014 at 10:28pm
£1000 a week ? That's not true ! Nobody at the club would allow him to put his son on that.


Posted By: Hallam90
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2014 at 10:38pm
Shockwave - I've heard the same story- from a ref


Posted By: Bringyourdinner
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2014 at 10:49pm
The game has gone simply crazy ! 3 - 4 fit young hardworking players on £250 each a week with desire and bollocks would not have got the club relegated


Posted By: Hallam90
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2014 at 10:56pm
Very true!!


Posted By: TFC ON TOUR
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2014 at 12:40am
Originally posted by Skippo10 Skippo10 wrote:

Who would we want to keep...

I would want a new manager in place, probably going to have a completely new team, so a new manager seems the only way to go for me, Belford is a good bloke, and have now doubt he is Tamworth through and through, but it just hasn't worked for him.

I would only keep Duane Courtney and Lloyd Kerry if it is possible, might be doing others an injustice, but they are the only ones who have impressed me this season, and I take into consideration Courtney has been injured for a while, but wonder if we would have been in this situation with him in our team!



How would you want to keep Duane Courtney he been out for 20 weeks this season FFs

If we would of changed the manager he would of made his normal miraculous recovery like he has for years and returned for me he not the player or man he people says he is.


Posted By: TFCG
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2014 at 6:06am
What? Because he doesn't have his head up Dale Belford's arse like you! Dale rushed Duane back as he has other players all season!


Posted By: thekingsburylamb
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2014 at 3:53pm
There is no way we can keep Duane Courtney at the club next season just like we cannot keep the existing manager. Only players I would keep are Ben R-E, Lloyd Kerry, Jack Evans and possibly Keane.


Posted By: TFCG
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2014 at 5:44pm
Why can't we? Jordan Keane isn't ours to keep!


Posted By: Skippo10
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2014 at 7:30pm
Originally posted by TFC ON TOUR TFC ON TOUR wrote:

Originally posted by Skippo10 Skippo10 wrote:

Who would we want to keep...

I would want a new manager in place, probably going to have a completely new team, so a new manager seems the only way to go for me, Belford is a good bloke, and have now doubt he is Tamworth through and through, but it just hasn't worked for him.

I would only keep Duane Courtney and Lloyd Kerry if it is possible, might be doing others an injustice, but they are the only ones who have impressed me this season, and I take into consideration Courtney has been injured for a while, but wonder if we would have been in this situation with him in our team!



How would you want to keep Duane Courtney he been out for 20 weeks this season FFs

If we would of changed the manager he would of made his normal miraculous recovery like he has for years and returned for me he not the player or man he people says he is.

I'm not basing keeping Duane Courtney on this season obviously?? If he is such a lowlife I would ask why when the big boys were sniffing around him a season or so ago he stayed with Tamworth, he has showed incredible loyalty especially when Marcus Law froze him out, I'm not asking you to agree with me I am giving an opinion, Courtney has been incredibly loyal, and if he wants to stay with us, we should make it happen, in my opinion!!



Posted By: Hallam90
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2014 at 7:42pm
Do we honestly think BRE Kerry etc will want to stay?!
They will be gone


Posted By: Skippo10
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2014 at 9:02pm
I guess a lot of the current crop will think they are too good to play in the Conference North, you would hope that the likes of Kerry and Richards Everton who both came from that level to join Tamworth wouldn't have a major issue going back to playing at that level, but in the case of Kerry I wouldn't be surprised if Conference National teams would be looking at him!


Posted By: Coops
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2014 at 11:44am
Originally posted by happy red happy red wrote:

Mr Cooper how on earth do you or anyone else know what it would be like under different chairmanship.  

Point me to the bit in my post which says I do.
I just said "be careful what you wish for", at least you will have a club to support next season (whether you chose to attend or not!), there are planty of other clubs who have 'chased the dream' that have disappeared without a trace (or formed a new club and pretended to be the old one!).
 
Quote Under this management system we are down and who knows where we will be next season. Lets say, Mr Cooper, if we were in the top six like Nuneaton would you have gone down and watched them more this season. I have made my views clear in the past, I am not paying £10 to £12 to watch Conference North football, why should I? When Bob Andrews has let the club slip out the Conference.
 You make it sound like we had some God-given right to stay in the Conference. Clubs get relegated, it happens, get over it. Either you support Tamworth FC no matter where they end up or you go into a sulk because someone has taken your big toy away. I agree with the prices by the way, ridiculous for that level, but hardly Bob Andrews fault that is it?

Quote  like you Mr Cooper I'm going to stay away.  

 
But unlike you I'm not staying away because of Andrews or the clubs supposed lack of ambition, I'm a sad bastard who is currently groundhopping (Meriden Athletic last Saturday, Church Stretton this week). I'll probably do a few more Tamuff games next season,and there are a few Conf North grounds I've not been to yet.


Posted By: CG RED
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2014 at 2:21pm

I read Mr Andrews interview in the Herald - especially with regards to the 3G pitch. I have 2 queries.

1. If he goes ahead and lays down a 3G pitch, are they banned in all Conference Divisions ? If so, which League does he envisage us in next Season ?
 
2. If they are allowed in the Conference North but not the National, should we win the League or play offs next season, would we not be able to go up ?
 


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Posted By: TFCG
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2014 at 2:47pm
You obviously don't read the article properly, he said it would only happen if sanctioned by the conference!


Posted By: Tobias
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2014 at 2:52pm
Seems a good idea theoretically but would it actually be beneficial to the club both short-term and long-term? 


Posted By: Coops
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2014 at 7:30pm
Originally posted by CG RED CG RED wrote:

I read Mr Andrews interview in the Herald - especially with regards to the 3G pitch. I have 2 queries.

1. If he goes ahead and lays down a 3G pitch, are they banned in all Conference Divisions ? If so, which League does he envisage us in next Season ?
 
2. If they are allowed in the Conference North but not the National, should we win the League or play offs next season, would we not be able to go up ?
 


Maidstone (and possibly others?) are challenging the Conference's ban on 3G pitches and are likely to win, this will mean 3G will be allowed in all three Conference divisions.



Posted By: NWL
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2014 at 10:25pm
Originally posted by Coops Coops wrote:

Originally posted by CG RED CG RED wrote:

I read Mr Andrews interview in the Herald - especially with regards to the 3G pitch. I have 2 queries.


1. If he goes ahead and lays down a 3G pitch, are they banned in all Conference Divisions ? If so, which League does he envisage us in next Season ?

 

2. If they are allowed in the Conference North but not the National, should we win the League or play offs next season, would we not be able to go up ?

 


Maidstone (and possibly others?) are challenging the Conference's ban on 3G pitches and are likely to win, this will mean 3G will be allowed in all three Conference divisions.



Colwyn bay next season , would be nice to meet you as a fan of all football, plus a pint or two.


Posted By: Coops
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2014 at 11:07pm
Originally posted by NWL NWL wrote:


Colwyn bay next season , would be nice to meet you as a fan of all football, plus a pint or two.


That one is on my list for definite, hopefully it will be a Saturday game.. Might do an overnighter.


Posted By: Footy Dave
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2014 at 11:41am
Have heard a rumour that Dwayne has been released along with Todd & a couple of others, just a rumour.

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Posted By: CG RED
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2014 at 4:36pm
Its going to be an interesting summer. See who we can attract now.
 
Maybe offer Moyes the job. He likes to manage teams in red who are going nowhere !!!


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Posted By: Manxman
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2014 at 1:36am
With Chester being relegated today isn't it more likely to be the Conference South for us next season?.  Hyde and Chester to the Conference North and Dartford and ourselves to the Conference south.


Posted By: LukeTFC
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2014 at 7:32am
Originally posted by Manxman Manxman wrote:

With Chester being relegated today isn't it more likely to be the Conference South for us next season?.  Hyde and Chester to the Conference North and Dartford and ourselves to the Conference south.
No we will be in the North, if anything Brackley or Gloucester will go South


Posted By: Coops
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2014 at 9:43am
Both teams coming up from the Southern League will be more South than us as well, Hemel Hempstead for definite and one of Chesham, Cambridge City, St Albans and Stourbridge.

We might get the delightful FC United of Manchester and their fantastic fans as well if they win their play-off.


Posted By: Pricey2
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2014 at 3:51pm
For the above reason, I'm a massive Ashton United fan this week with the possibility that I may desert them for AFC Fylde or Worksop. Please God, someone beat them Manc mouth breathers.


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Posted By: The dosthill lamb
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2014 at 5:43pm
At least you have got one wish Pricey. Ashton United did beat your favourite Manc team last night 2-1 so we wont be getting that lot down the lamb next season


Posted By: Pricey2
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2014 at 6:13pm
Credit where it's due, Ashton rested virtually a whole team Saturday and got stuffed 1-4 at home by Witton Albion to ensure they were ready to face that mob. It's given us at least a season's grace as by the law of averages they'll get up one year...but at least it's not this one.

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