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Topic: Should Vardy pay compensation
Posted By: Bolehall Youth
Subject: Should Vardy pay compensation
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2017 at 2:29pm
Just a though, but like us if this is not a one off programme no doubt sponsored by Sky tv Iwhich Vardy will have been paid for, who pays compensation to the losing out clubs.
According to the club and player we had been close to agreeing an extension on his contract, then he is selected by Vardy In November for the June trials. What realistic chance have clubs got on securing there man, hence they go on a free. If the players were not informed until the end of the season, players may sign an extension, clubs would be compesated for there work in developing a player through a transfer.
No one would like to see a players progress stopped, but lower leagues are now seen as easy pickings, No support from the premier league, championship or football league.





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Posted By: JamesTFC
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2017 at 4:27pm
There's no doubt in my mind Newts would have signed before all the Vardy stuff. Sadly we have no leg to stand on  



Posted By: Bolehall Youth
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2017 at 5:15pm
I agree, but that why I put it out there, yet again non-league misses out. There was no need to mention who they where looking at.

Has anyone else been picked up from this 5 day wonder coaching course ?


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2017 at 6:25pm
Originally posted by Bolehall Youth Bolehall Youth wrote:


No one would like to see a players progress stopped, but lower leagues are now seen as easy pickings, No support from the premier league, championship or football league.


I know you and Highrise like the song analogies so give you few lines of our song 'No one likes us' - fact of life every league you go down the one just above picks up the best - and worst for TFC because we don't give more 2 year contracts - know they come with the obvious risks etc etc and thinking about it the Wasp came alive last season big time but didn't the previous so much - oh hum joys of Non-League - drives me to drink - - NWL - had a couple of bottles of Wadworths Old Timer - 2 years old but - no more in boat!


Posted By: Bolehall Youth
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2017 at 12:03am
Very pleased for Danny and no blame on him.
But, If TFC in November announce that they are having a V9 trials in June to win full time or better contracts offers, and named the players they were inviting would it be classed as tapping up ?.
Because that is what has just happened. Surely the FA should look into it, these players where under contract at the time of the approach. And yet Vardy is getting the credit for finding a goal scorer which every scout in the Football League and Conference would know of, Stevenage included. Difference is he would have been under contract TFC would have received a fee, probably a sell on clause, giving us a bigger playing budget, who knows but I nice thought

So my question is " is it an illegal approach being ignored by the FA because money bags SKY are behind it?



Posted By: Womble12
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2017 at 8:34am
You have a very good point there bolehall youth!

Players that are under contract, other clubs are not allowed to approach or talk to them until their contract is in 6 months wind down. If contracted till 1st June the January the 1st is the earliest anyone could approach a contracted player.

Jones agreed a contract extension around the time newts was tapped up, would newts have stayed if this hadn't have happened, I think the answer is "yes". Come on vardy one weeks of your wages wouldn't go a miss.


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2017 at 12:39pm
Don't know if it's being ignored by FA guys -doesn't the club have to report an illegal approach before the FA kick off investigative action


Posted By: Highrise bert
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2017 at 1:32pm
Do you think there's been a backhander somewhere along the line and that's why TFC are keeping quiet about it?after all they don't seem to bothered about what's gone on regards the approach made to DN?just a thought.


Posted By: I.O.M.Lamb
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2017 at 3:09pm
I have no knowledge of what the details were of Danny Newton's contract, or of any other player at TFC, but I would think that it would contain some sort of agreement that he would be made aware of any interest from any other club ( probably worded in the contract as a third party ), and if he wanted to, be allowed to talk to them. That would just be sensible for a player at this level. If that was the case, Vardy's academy was a third party seeking to talk to him therefore there would be no illegal approach. As I said, I have no inside knowledge of any of this, just speculating.


Posted By: Highrise bert
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2017 at 3:30pm
Agreed IOM,but you would have thought that TFC would have put it's supporters in the picture of what the circumstances were regarding DNs contract details,instead of us lot having a guessing game.Havnt read the herald yet,is there any clues in it anybody.


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2017 at 5:11pm
Originally posted by Highrise bert Highrise bert wrote:

Agreed IOM,but you would have thought that TFC would have put it's supporters in the picture.


Please treat this as your first warning Highrise - if you dare to even breath think or have the altacity to mention anything on here in neagative terms the gatekeeper will come and get you wherever you live - by the way gatekeeper, Highrise's abode is on the top of one of the 5 blocks if that helps -


Posted By: Shed 1993
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2017 at 10:45pm
As a club we are very naive. Only give out one year contracts. With the amount of money in our league now we have to offer two year contracts. Then we could actually make some money from the likes of Belshaw, Newton, Daniels, Durrell.. the list is endless.
You only have to look down the road, Nuneaton made sure Penny, Ironside, Scott, Morgan were tied down and they have been able to use that money to go on a spree, without paying a transfer fee

In answer to the title it would be nice if the clubs were given a fee for allowing their star players to go even if it's only 2k for example. It would then almost be an aim to get players into the academy and it would make the club attractive to other players looking at coming to the club


Posted By: Bolehall Youth
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2017 at 12:06am
Shed Danny was in his second year of his contract, and the club were in talks before Christmas according to the papers to extend it.
Belshaw in his third year, he told everyone he wanted a shot at full time football. I must admit to being surprised by his choice of club.
Daniels was realised and so was Durrell for crap attitude, interestly Harrogate and Chester respectively also realised them, inspire of the great football ability.
Whilst you can sign players with a second year option which it looks like we did, as with Ellis Deeney two and half year deal so a little unfair really Shed


Posted By: Shed 1993
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2017 at 12:12am
And should have extended it rather than being too nice and put the club first rather than letting players leave for free.
Belshaw wasn't in his third year, he had three separate contracts.
Yes Daniels and Durrell were released but they were in demand and if they were tied down money would have come our way, I believe Fylde bought him from Harrogate too for a five figure fee. We haven't given a long term contract since Deeney


Posted By: Bolehall Youth
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2017 at 7:45am
What about Jones
Daniels was realeased
Belshaw it's called extending there contract because he had resigned way before the other contract finished, until this last season
And agin the same question was Danny approached illegally under fa rules


Posted By: Shed 1993
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2017 at 7:43pm
I think you're missing the point. We should be taking the decision out of players hands. If we have to give one year contracts then let's put the second year option into the clubs hands and then we can stop giving our best players away and start commanding some fees for hard work being put in on the training ground.

As we've seen with players in the past I.e. Hibbert. Players like that security


Posted By: Bolehall Youth
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 2:58pm
Shed the point was about Vardy and his agent John Morris (co-founder) approaching contracted players in November about a show peace trial in June, which in our case stopped us having any chance of resigning him, unless no one offered him a suitable deal.
Is that not worrying for all non league clubs like ourselves every penny counts and we have lost out on quite a few.
I would guess that the V9 probably got a finders fee? Who knows ?
Is Morris an agent now DN as well?
I believe it is an illegal approach
Come on Vardy one weeks wages




Posted By: Shed 1993
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 3:57pm
The offer would have been made to the club not the player. If they approached the player first then it would be illegal.


Posted By: Highrise bert
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2017 at 7:48am
Do you think Bob is keeping something under his hat?


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2017 at 8:31am
What's it with you and 'Hats' Highrise



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