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Topic: Striker
Posted By: Argus9
Subject: Striker
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2017 at 10:42pm
No mention in recent weeks - sorry now months since Wasp left about getting a striker in - yes Styche playing out of position (in his own words) and doing a dam good job but what's going on - will get sent off soon and suspended or injured - no cover for him - don't really get it - we have no 'real' striker at the club period? - how long does a manager actually need to rectify such a situation



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Posted By: Highrise bert
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2017 at 7:42am
Yep, I'm the 1st to criticize Styche,but if he can play crap but get a few goals albeit penalties,who cares.


Posted By: Pilgrim Pod
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2017 at 11:14am
It's a shame for the club Ross Dyer retired. 11 goals last season and many of those whilst not playing as an out and out striker. AM was clearly a fan of his and would have surely offered him a new deal(?).

I'm not saying he could replace Newton but he was a useful addition to the squad and silenced a few of his critics last season, myself included.

With no new strikers brought in I would have quite happily given Ross the number 9 shirt and played him as a target man. One of his most underrated qualities was his ability to bring other players into the game via a knock on or simple pass; it was the simple stuff he did well. I think Styche would have thrived playing off him.


Posted By: Footbored
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2017 at 5:17pm
Aren't there anyone coming through from the u21s
Weren't long ago people were raving about our youngsters pushing for 1st team spots


Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2017 at 5:50pm
Originally posted by Pilgrim Pod Pilgrim Pod wrote:

It's a shame for the club Ross Dyer retired. 11 goals last season and many of those whilst not playing as an out and out striker. AM was clearly a fan of his and would have surely offered him a new deal(?).

I'm not saying he could replace Newton but he was a useful addition to the squad and silenced a few of his critics last season, myself included.

With no new strikers brought in I would have quite happily given Ross the number 9 shirt and played him as a target man. One of his most underrated qualities was his ability to bring other players into the game via a knock on or simple pass; it was the simple stuff he did well. I think Styche would have thrived playing off him.
Stick he got from fans, despite scoring double figures out wide, probably made his decision to pack up fairly easy 


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2017 at 6:12pm
Originally posted by Footbored Footbored wrote:

Aren't there anyone coming through from the u21s
Weren't long ago people were raving about our youngsters pushing for 1st team spots


More about giving them a chance during last few games that didn't matter me thinks to see how they got on. Made earlier comment on here that following Styches comments on giving youngsters a chance in terms of patience thought always senior players would prevail which makes sense at start of season -however interesting to see how and when 'youngsters' will finally make the breakthrough



Posted By: Footbored
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2017 at 6:26pm
Let's see how long it takes then ,I am surprised AM hasn't moved to the loan system ,surely he knows clubs that are aching to get players games


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2017 at 6:42pm
Originally posted by Footbored Footbored wrote:

Let's see how long it takes then ,I am surprised AM hasn't moved to the loan system ,surely he knows clubs that are aching to get players games


FB fully agree - loan system, transfers, whatever we need a striker - 🦊 okay but we already have Taylor, Powell, Knight and wing backs to do that and can get the ball in however just imagine if we lose the on 🔥 Styche - what then?


Posted By: Shed 1993
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2017 at 11:14pm
I think you misinterpreted Styche's comments re playing out of position. He said he was being played out of position last year due to Newton playing as a lone striker and was hoping to become the main striker in his own right. That is his position. I think we've seen that if teams want to play high against us his movement off the ball will work in our favour, he may frustrate us at times but I'd rather someone with a bit of fire in the belly, as long as Morrell can work with him to channel it in right way like Boston rather than the seemingly selfish Bradford performance


Posted By: TPtfc
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2017 at 11:10am
For me styche has been brilliant, yes moans and waves his arms about too much at times but as you say shed as long as it's controlled by AM then fine. His making some great runs off the ball as we saw on Tuesday night, also an assist for our second. Long may it continue.


Posted By: Jonp1981
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2017 at 1:07pm
The issue for me is we lose newton and belahaw surely highe earners and replace them with players at no where near there calibre so where's the budget from those 2 gone?


Posted By: Pilgrim Pod
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2017 at 2:17pm
Originally posted by TPtfc TPtfc wrote:

For me styche has been brilliant, yes moans and waves his arms about too much at times but as you say shed as long as it's controlled by AM then fine. His making some great runs off the ball as we saw on Tuesday night, also an assist for our second. Long may it continue.
A poor man's Craig Bellamy and that isn't a criticism! Smile

The key as others have alluded is keeping that aggression in check and if he manages to do that he should be a real asset. The last thing we need is him picking up suspensions. I think a lot of hopes and expectations could rest on his shoulders this season if he carries on the way he has started.


Posted By: Footbored
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2017 at 6:28pm
If two players that take up a good chunk of your budget are let go ,that only tell me one thing ..
The budget has been lowered ..
Simple


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2017 at 6:36pm
Thank you FB - however another possibility just maybe AM has funds still available but hasn't that word beginning in 'C' - that said for whatever reason we will not be competitive this season


Posted By: Footbored
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2017 at 6:55pm
Love to agree with you mate ,but if theres funds available then surely players that are out there would have been bought in ..
My view is AM has limited funds and is running with what he's got
No brainer
Tamworth fc are a business ,making money and happy in this league


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2017 at 7:49pm
Originally posted by Footbored Footbored wrote:


Tamworth fc are a business ,making money and happy in this league


Know what you saying FB - Heard from so many sources last season that after mega £ input with the pitch Board and Sir Bob did not want promotion - scared sh*tless their words not mine and in their view not ready to compete at that level - however there will come a time when Bobs favourite toy will have to be given up or upgraded to a newer version with finally a competive budget given or give the toy up - how many years to we have to wait as fans - there is obviously a balance but not sure we will be anyway near close this season


Posted By: Footbored
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2017 at 7:53pm
Think you'll have to wait a few years yet mate


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2017 at 8:20pm
But at least we will have the PR (Money Making) machine churning out at full throttle on all forums for this and years to come before the investment button is finally pushed - just a thought though with a little bit of PR coaching AM could be trained to come out after Blyth defeat with a few comments - fans who bothered to go derserved a lot better or am I missing something - l again say it's good to talk even in apoligetic terms - or maybe he had other things on his mind in terms of getting a striker in


Posted By: Footbored
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2017 at 8:32pm
Here's one for you argus
Spoke to someone today who's lad plays for Tamworth u12s
Reckons were the best team for that age group ..
Then he said that not one will stay at Tamworth as there all lined up for bigger clubs at a later date .
What you think to that


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2017 at 8:58pm
3 words - Evostik Northern Premier - at least when we get there - only one ex-league club to contend with as if that matters a toss apart from those serial excusiers on here


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2017 at 9:17pm
Originally posted by Footbored Footbored wrote:

Here's one for you argus
Spoke to someone today who's lad plays for Tamworth u12s
Reckons were the best team for that age group ..
Then he said that not one will stay at Tamworth as there all lined up for bigger clubs at a later date .
What you think to that


Afterthought anyone out there - any money for us in between these stages


Posted By: Shed 1993
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2017 at 9:26pm
He's not going to say his son is sh*t is he? They will not bypass the first team if they are good enough


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2017 at 9:48pm
Not convinced AM has one bit of risk mentality in his DNA in making SUBS or starting Youth


Posted By: Bolehall Youth
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2017 at 10:16pm
Originally posted by Jonp1981 Jonp1981 wrote:

The issue for me is we lose newton and belahaw surely highe earners and replace them with players at no where near there calibre so where's the budget from those 2 gone?


So you think Verma & Knights (both pure quality) are a low earners, & know I don't know for sure but you don't leave Kiddy or turn down Torquay and other clubs without good reason.

What about some of the players that have stayed, I am sure they would have been looking for an increase, only natural.


Posted By: Bolehall Youth
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2017 at 10:25pm
Originally posted by Footbored Footbored wrote:

Love to agree with you mate ,but if theres funds available then surely players that are out there would have been bought in ..
My view is AM has limited funds and is running with what he's got
No brainer
Tamworth fc are a business ,making money and happy in this league


No Brainer just about says it all.
Buy some shares, then you just might understand the club better, "making money" yeah footbored you comments says it all about you
No Brainer


Posted By: Mysticpeg
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2017 at 8:56am
Or simply a case they wanted to go back part time and be with their families more?


Posted By: happy red
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2017 at 9:10am
Watching the game on Sky yesterday and don't mean the cricket. Was it not mentioned Burton made a profit last season.
Argus 9 Highrise try to explain that. Because I can explain why.



Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2017 at 10:59am
Interesting comments from Reece Styche in the Herald hoping his recent goals will hush talk of reinforcements being required and quashing talk of Tamworth being light weight up front. Assume these comments would not have been made of the cuff. So it looks like we have what we have and we do not have 💰 to spend - just hope then that Reece continues in the same vain scores bucket loads and does not get injured or suspended. We have Reid on the bench as a striker replacement and a direct replacement if we lose Styche at anytime - oh hum what a lack of ambition and if that's not light weight up front l don't know what is


Posted By: Highrise bert
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2017 at 12:58pm
What a stupid question HR,it's obvious how they made a profit,the ground was full every other week for a start,they made a seasons money by just playing the other Midlands teams at home.I think they were on the Tele a few times as well.


Posted By: Footbored
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2017 at 2:04pm
Bolehall youth ..
What an absolutely rediculous reply .
What have buying shares got to do with anything said ,all I said was AM must be working to a certain budget and running with it ..
By the way I fully understand the workings of our football club ..


Posted By: Bolehall Youth
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2017 at 9:18pm
Originally posted by Footbored Footbored wrote:

Love to agree with you mate ,but if theres funds available then surely players that are out there would have been bought in ..
My view is AM has limited funds and is running with what he's got
No brainer
Tamworth fc are a business ,making money and happy in this league


Footbored just to help you out, read your last line
Making money, like I said buy some shares you can attend the Agm, I am sure someone there will explain a P & L


Posted By: Footbored
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2017 at 1:32pm
Question to bolehall youth ..
What happens if we make play offs which I think we can and then get promoted through that system .
Is our club
A .. Financially equipped to compete and survive .
B .. Do we have the fanbase to generate funds and more importantly an atmosphere to warrant a side at that level ..
Can we go forward and move upwards and onwards ,that is my final question


Posted By: Bolehall Youth
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2017 at 5:43pm
Q1 - Not sure, will know more after AGM when ever that is.
Q2 - We did before for a few seasons but as so many have shown the league get harder every year and with football league clubs getting a golden cheque for 3/4 season as a reward for being crap does not help.
Team builder must help a bit, promotion would bring in extra revenue as more away supporters travel increased prices in line with national league clubs would guess £15 and with gates of a 1100 works out at an extra £3,300 per game
Truthfully no one knows but would love to try it again with out the idiots abusing the officials if it not sustainable

Supporting for me is through good times and bad, but at the same time being realistic on what we expect, highlights on previous visits to the promised land beating Luton, Luton again I am afraid whilst relegated on the night but but my club playing in front of near 10,000 people in a league game, who would have thought that when we were in the WM.


Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2017 at 5:59pm
Originally posted by Bolehall Youth Bolehall Youth wrote:



Supporting for me is through good times and bad, but at the same time being realistic on what we expect, highlights on previous visits to the promised land beating Luton, Luton again I am afraid whilst relegated on the night but but my club playing in front of near 10,000 people in a league game, who would have thought that when we were in the WM.


Glad this season when you really get into your real patriotic mode Youth as above you stoped leaving out the bit about TFC being in your blood - thinking about that recently and just imagine (woe betide it actually happens seriously) - playing Nuneaton away and you end up in the George Eliot Hospital and having a blood transfusion- you might turn into a scum fan   



Posted By: Bolehall Youth
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 12:20am
Argus you never know the extra fingers and toes, could come In handy at cards and swimming (well balancing after a few drinks)
What would be worse, if it happened in Wiltshire I would have to employ a translator.



Posted By: Argus9
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 5:33pm
Originally posted by Bolehall Youth Bolehall Youth wrote:

Argus you never know the extra fingers and toes, could come In handy at cards and swimming (well balancing after a few drinks)
What would be worse, if it happened in Wiltshire I would have to employ a translator.

- Not at all Youth - just speak slowly - we get used to all sorts



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