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Topic: New Manager ?????
Posted By: ARGUS
Subject: New Manager ?????
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2014 at 11:57pm

Heard that an ex-TFC player has been offered the number two slot next season - his current Manager has been offered the Managers post. Whilst I am 100% sure the ex-TFC player has blubbed out this,  I am not so sure his mouth and vanity have taken over  - worst haircut ever to play for TFC and is trying to make out that he is still Mr Bigg and the tops. 

Not sure whether to topic this - but hey - this forum needs to get going + TFC site is dead in terms of news and the loacl rag/club are as one for some strange reason.
 
Come on guys I must have given you a clue to the number 2 at least? Please be fair to the stars who have played for TFC over the years and are not vain or have had good haircuts!    



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Posted By: Get real 2
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2014 at 11:52am
If that's true and Belford is in charge I'll be voting with my feet!


Posted By: shockwave1965
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2014 at 9:27pm

It might be his dad!!! I wouldn't put it past Andrews!

Same here I won't be paying good money next season either.





Posted By: TFC ON TOUR
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2014 at 9:34pm
Lads get over it we down and that's it , we are all gutted no one more than myself, but next year will be better and we will win more games and the feel good factor will return.

Don't jump ship just yet , let's all pull together I am sure things will improve on and of the field.

There are positives from going down I will bounce back after initial depression


Posted By: Get real 2
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2014 at 12:25pm
If Belford remains I am not paying to watch that pile of rubbish I've seen this season, he's a coach at best. He has been given the reigns for a full season and it's been rubbish with the lowest points tally since I've been watching them. That clearly demonstrates he's out of his depth and doesn't deserve support.

The board I find are somewhat complacent and take the fans for granted!


Posted By: ARGUS
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2014 at 10:09pm
Okay Guys -Scott Rickards is the Number 2 at TFC according to him next season  and his current boss will take over from Dale B. SR is currently youth team Manger at Mansfield  and his BOSS?


Posted By: NWL
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2014 at 10:26pm
Originally posted by ARGUS ARGUS wrote:

Okay Guys -Scott Rickards is the Number 2 at TFC according to him next season  and his current boss will take over from Dale B. SR is currently youth team Manger at Mansfield  and his BOSS?

No ambition then.


Posted By: Reds29
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2014 at 8:38am
Scott manages a team at the moment and isn't doing great.
I would like a good young manager. Who would get the team playing good football.
ie Bignot at Solihull with maybe somebody like as strange as it sounds Liam at redditch. Seen them a few times this season and they play great attacking football.
I think a management team of those 2, would excite the fans in terms of what they would produce on the pitch.

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Posted By: LukeTFC
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2014 at 12:03pm
Hearing rumours that if the job becomes vacant then Darron Gee will be applying and will be assisted by Marcus Ebdon and Dave Robinson. If it gets to that point, could be interesting


Posted By: ARGUS
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2014 at 6:55pm
Robbo emense - Ebdon quality and would make a great partnership suporting a good Number 1 - weak link here is Mr Gee - + what has been ben doing since left Mills - has he the contacts + the knowlege of players available to get us back up - huge risk.         


Posted By: TFC ON TOUR
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2014 at 7:00pm
Originally posted by ARGUS ARGUS wrote:

Robbo emense - Ebdon quality and would make a great partnership suporting a good Number 1 - weak link here is Mr Gee - + what has been ben doing since left Mills - has he the contacts + the knowlege of players available to get us back up - huge risk.         


Are you for real the clubs most successful manager of all time


Posted By: Get real 2
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2014 at 9:02pm
Before my time but sounds promising I'm with TFC on this one, just hope changes are made !


Posted By: TfcDobbie
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2014 at 9:22pm
Geebo would be a great candidate to take the reigns at the club. Be interesting to see if he comes, at least we'd have someone with some sort of idea in charge for the season


Posted By: ARGUS
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2014 at 9:56pm
Yep TFC - thanks for asking - just pinched myself and yep I am 'for real'. Now back to Mr Gee - As said what has he been doing since partnership with GM finished - does he have the contacts/current knowlege of players to get us back up? 
 
Football is about opinions and my view is yes whilst he got us out of the DR Martins League in 2002-2003 it certainly was not his team - most of the team that year was GMs from the previous season. Also if I remember right he made one of the worst calls of all time I picking Sale over Hallam in the T/Final. That aside think there was some major  fall out between him and Sir Bob when he left the first time and only was given the second chance to come back on back of GM wanting hims as No2 as a condition for Mr Mill's return.
 
Over to you TFC.
 
      


Posted By: TFC ON TOUR
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2014 at 10:07pm
Originally posted by ARGUS ARGUS wrote:

Yep TFC - thanks for asking - just pinched myself and yep I am 'for real'. Now back to Mr Gee - As said what has he been doing since partnership with GM finished - does he have the contacts/current knowlege of players to get us back up? 
 

Football is about opinions and my view is yes whilst he got us out of the DR Martins League in 2002-2003 it certainly was not his team - most of the team that year was GMs from the previous season. Also if I remember right he made one of the worst calls of all time I picking Sale over Hallam in the T/Final. That aside think there was some major  fall out between him and Sir Bob when he left the first time and only was given the second chance to come back on back of GM wanting hims as No2 as a condition for Mr Mill's return.

 

Over to you TFC.

 

      


Agree but why did he make change on reason a certain scum of the earth former player who lied about cancer


Posted By: Kryton
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2014 at 7:55am
100% agree with Argus. Gee was only second to Balford in the amount of players used in a season. He was totally out of his depth when Mills left. The board will do what they will do. If anyone thinks that they will receive any applications from a manager with any quality and potential with the limitations that will be placed on them, that's if Beford does leave, then we'll all see Tamworth pigs flying.


Posted By: Let's get real
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2014 at 12:59pm
Impressive. Manager's name spelt wrong twice in same message!!


Posted By: tfc123
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2014 at 3:00pm
best manager the club has ever seen by far.. hope this is true it might bring back the feel good factor again.. he has got us out of this league before and I think him ebdon and robbo could do it again


Posted By: Coops
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2014 at 3:39pm
Originally posted by Kryton Kryton wrote:

He was totally out of his depth when Mills left.  

Yes, so massively out of his depth that we won the League by thirteen points, that's how out of his depth he was.

Our first season in The Conference was always going to be tough, I don't think anyone knew what to expect or how huge the gap between the top two division is (Look at our own results against Conf North teams this season, we have been mostly very poor this season but we stuffed Solihull Poors in the FA Cup.)
Keeping us up in that first season was an excellent result in my opinion.

I'd have Geebo back in a flash.

Mind you, there isn't even a vacancy yet!


Posted By: Kryton
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2014 at 5:18pm

Gee was left with a team that Mills created.

 

If you really think Tamworth would have a chance with Gee, remember the cloud he departed under. 

Gee was forced to apologise for his comments in the newspaper and in the Tamworth programme. He implied he would walk out if another suitable post became available. 

The rumour was that Andrews and Gee didn't see eye to eye.

 

Someone would need to eat a lot of humble pie.





Posted By: SCAMP
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2014 at 5:56pm

If a managerial change happens and I doubt it will this summer.... surely someone needs to come in (someone different from the outside) and breath a new lease of life into this club...

People are talking about Gee, it was 10 years ago!!



Posted By: shockwave1965
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2014 at 6:30pm
Is it true that Andrews stuck his up at the fans protesting on Saturday V Woking?


Posted By: Coops
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2014 at 6:34pm
Originally posted by Kryton Kryton wrote:

Gee was left with a team that Mills created.


And got it promoted with a thirteen point gap.

Did you not enjoy that season? I did, it was brilliant. All rounded off with the celebrations in Cambridge and a day out at Villa Park (okay, so other circumstances spoilt that a bit, but it was still a decent afternoon out for me).
 

Quote If you really think Tamworth would have a chance with Gee, remember the cloud he departed under. 

Gee was forced to apologise for his comments in the newspaper and in the Tamworth programme. He implied he would walk out if another suitable post became available. 

The rumour was that Andrews and Gee didn't see eye to eye.

 

Someone would need to eat a lot of humble pie.



Maybe I'm remembering it differently from you then. I do recall Gee getting very upset about some abuse he was getting from the crowd, which I suppose prompted the comments about walking out. But then I seem to recall that it was Andrews that persuaded him to stay so I don't see where the stories of them not getting on come from.
Of course I don't live in Tamuff and probably didn't get the full story so I am happy to be corrected, but not with "rumours".


Posted By: tintin
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2014 at 6:42pm
Im with you scamp change outside of club fresh start would like to see burr at tamworth be good to least have a manager with the grades badges who can take club forward knows how to play football to  not just big ball over top to many faces this year have come and go and not been given chance ok yes not all can make the grade but no need to ship players out cause you fear there better then your chosen ones but lets do it now and for the fans change needed please mr Andrews

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Posted By: CG RED
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2014 at 7:38pm
Steve Burr told me at the Aldershot game that he would have come to Tamworth when he left Kiddy but no approach was made so I doubt he will come now. With the players we have got, I reckon he would have kept us up. Yet another missed opportunity by our board !!

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Posted By: Get real 2
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2014 at 8:10pm
If that's true Andrews should be publicly flogged!


Posted By: long time red 2
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2014 at 8:18pm
Do tell me Sir what success Steve Burr has had at Chester which a much better budget?


Posted By: ARGUS1
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2014 at 9:18pm

Not sure but I would have a good bet that on Burr's CV it doe's mot mention practicing magician - with Countney out - what you don't do is fall out with your only class defender, and as a result with Thomas gone not even Burr could have saved us with a back four including Keene. Ben Everton Richards and Evans  - got to be the worst defence we have had in the top league by far. Perhaps had we Seven in goal in might have saved the day !! (Joke there guys!)     



Posted By: CG RED
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2014 at 12:08pm
Originally posted by long time red 2 long time red 2 wrote:

Do tell me Sir what success Steve Burr has had at Chester which a much better budget?
Took them from relegation certainties to having a real chance of avaoiding the drop including a win at Cambridge (IIRC).
 
He has also had a lot of success at Kidderminster over the years.


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Posted By: The dosthill lamb
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2014 at 3:16pm
Would this be the Steve Burr that won the Northern Premier League in 2003/4 with Hucknall and then when with Northwich overturned a 10 point deduction to steer them to safety in The Conference only to get relegated due to off field problems. He took over at Chester in Jan 2014 and in that time their league record till the end of the season was, played 21 Won 8 drew 5 and lost 8 making 29 points out of a possible 63 as opposed to in the same period our record of played 22 won 4 drew 3 and lost 15 making 15 pts out of a possible 66! Yep, crap manager Steve Burr. Can we have some of his crap please!!


Posted By: Red Blooded
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2014 at 3:51pm
Originally posted by The dosthill lamb The dosthill lamb wrote:


Would this be the Steve Burr that won the Northern Premier League in 2003/4 with Hucknall and then when with Northwich overturned a 10 point deduction to steer them to safety in The Conference only to get relegated due to off field problems. He took over at Chester in Jan 2014 and in that time their league record till the end of the season was, played 21 Won 8 drew 5 and lost 8 making 29 points out of a possible 63 as opposed to in the same period our record of played 22 won 4 drew 3 and lost 15 making 15 pts out of a possible 66! Yep, crap manager Steve Burr. Can we have some of his crap please!!


+1from me .


Posted By: SCAMP
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2014 at 5:31pm
one of the most sought-after managers in non-league football....

He'd have to be mad to come here!


Posted By: shockwave1965
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2014 at 6:23pm
I agree with Andrews obsessed about budgets, negativity etc doubt if anyone would come that's why we finished up with 'on the cheap' yes man Belford


Posted By: Pricey2
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2014 at 6:37pm
Can't see any way Steve Burr would come here now. Chester are a far bigger club, get over twice our gates and probably will be in the same league (I've learnt not to assume the 4th bottom side are relegated prior to the Conference AGM - with everything still unresolved at Hereford, I wouldn't be remortgaging the house on Chester being relegated just yet.)


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Posted By: Red Blooded
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2014 at 10:48pm
Originally posted by shockwave1965 shockwave1965 wrote:


I agree with Andrews obsessed about budgets, negativity etc doubt if anyone would come that's why we finished up with 'on the cheap' yes man Belford



I have no issue about Bob Andrews being budget conscious, that is why we are still alive as a relatively successful football club.
My issue is his shortsightedness in a) appointing Dale Belford as Manager and b) not disposing of Dale Belfords services when it was clear to all that he is not the man for the job and c) failing to communicate with fans during this difficult period.
He mustn't be surprised if the fans vote with their feet next season, keeping Belford May prove to be a costly option.
I await the flack from all you Belford admirers.


Posted By: Get real 2
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2014 at 8:51am
There isn't any fella...and agree entirely with your post


Posted By: CG RED
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2014 at 1:09pm
I will continue (flack accepted) to stick up for Dale.
 
The TFC job is a tough one at the best of times but if anyone actually spoke to him, you would know where the problems lie at our club. I accept the player turnover was excessive but to get a new player in, he was forced to ship one out.


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Posted By: Get real 2
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2014 at 2:38pm
So you accept failure then?


Posted By: NWL
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2014 at 10:39pm
Originally posted by Get real 2 Get real 2 wrote:

So you accept failure then?


Failure is what we ended up with, I do blame the manager, some of the players he signed never started or finished the season with us, out on loan then back in then back out, I've lost track of the ins outs , and he has proved that any replacement has been no better than what we started with.



Posted By: Get real 2
Date Posted: 01 May 2014 at 8:07am
The back 5 are the worst I have seen and how CB got voted players player of the defies belief, he's been average at best this season and has cost us quite a few points.


Posted By: bolehall man and son
Date Posted: 01 May 2014 at 5:10pm
Says it all as to where the season went wrong when the manager reckoned his best player was one who never learnt how to pass the ball all season unless an aimless hoof counts as one and can't tackle either!


Posted By: abcdefg
Date Posted: 01 May 2014 at 11:09pm
Originally posted by CG RED CG RED wrote:

I will continue (flack accepted) to stick up for Dale.
 
The TFC job is a tough one at the best of times but if anyone actually spoke to him, you would know where the problems lie at our club. I accept the player turnover was excessive but to get a new player in, he was forced to ship one out.

I dont believe sticking up for Dale is accepting failure.  Most people accept that Tamworths tenure in the Conference Premier was always precarious.  Avoiding relegation was always the benchmark for judging success.  Relegation was almost inevitable unless lots of investment or large increases in average home crowds happened.

Dale has made mistakes, as quite probably have Jose Mourino, Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger!  However, I believe he should be given the opportunity to learn from them.  Managerial stability is not always a bad thing.  



Posted By: Get real 2
Date Posted: 02 May 2014 at 8:02am
Disagree as I feel he demonstrated he's out of his depth, I've watched him manage and manage by fear he does! That's why you look at the squad at the end of the season and most were kids, the ones which won't answer back or offer an opinion.

He's rubbish let's face it and if he continues you'll be lucky to get 500 next season.


Posted By: thekingsburylamb
Date Posted: 05 May 2014 at 9:03pm
I don't believe the board have not made a statement about the manager for next season. Surely we cannot keep the current Manager after what we have suffered this season. He should be now given the opportunity to manage a side at a lower level and make mistakes because after following them for the last 12 season's with the current Management we will loose fans next season. 


Posted By: Red Blooded
Date Posted: 05 May 2014 at 9:10pm
I have a horrible feeling that Dale will still be here next season, otherwise I think the Board would have got rid of him by now, however knowing their love for inactivity and silence perhaps not.
My other nightmare is that if Dale stays, Courtney Belford will be in goal for next season. He has managed to wheedle himself onto the pitch for pre-match warm up and half time penalty shoot out competition. Why not James Wren?


Posted By: Pricey2
Date Posted: 05 May 2014 at 10:45pm
Just wait till July (usually the latter part). That's when we've made all our decisions for the previous (insert number you've been following the club) seasons on player recruitment (by which I mean at least three quarters of a squad), style of play etc etc. We've obviously analysed it as a club and decided that action in the early part of the close season has no benefits whatsoever...


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Posted By: Red Blooded
Date Posted: 05 May 2014 at 10:53pm
Originally posted by Pricey2 Pricey2 wrote:

Just wait till July (usually the latter part). That's when we've made all our decisions for the previous (insert number you've been following the club) seasons on player recruitment (by which I mean at least three quarters of a squad), style of play etc etc. We've obviously analysed it as a club and decided that action in the early part of the close season has no benefits whatsoever...

You cynic!!
But I agree we usually don't rush into planning for a new season until we start pre- season friendlies, in fact this season we had nearly played all of our games before the squad was sorted!!!!!!


Posted By: NWL
Date Posted: 06 May 2014 at 9:43pm
The world cup may deflect what's going on, or may be not, and as usual of late any young player players discarded by Blues, Walsall or Nottingham Florist will be signed, loaned out to gain experience at clubs like Long Eaton, Dudley Sports or Melchester Rovers, befoe being released...............then again Dale might be off to Brazil to find a few up and coming players who's names non of us will able to pronounce..........the silly season is well underway.




Posted By: Grauniad
Date Posted: 07 May 2014 at 10:11pm
So....Wan Girl is out. Vants to gaal to Manchester U. Next Interviewee please.


Posted By: Grauniad
Date Posted: 07 May 2014 at 11:32pm
Giggs is available though. Could have Rio, Vidic in defence. Giggs Schole Butt in midfield. Cantona and his hop farmers up front. Sponsored by 1664. That the formation guys..........
Kronenberg sponsor.
Average crowd per game is1675, including the home team. Fans get in for nothing. Tamworth could then beat the best pub club in the world, possibly.......



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